Posts by John Aquila

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So I overheard a discussion that my son and wife were having about creation yesterday

so i am getting ready for bed yesterday night and i overhear my teenage son and wife talking about how the evidence of creation far outweighs the evidence of evolution.

i heard my son say that evolution has so many holes and how could something happen from nothing.

i wanted to open the door and ask them both how the creator happened from nothing just to see what they would say..

John Aquila

Even the WTBTS acknowledges that, only in such weasely language that it is hard to see unless you're really looking.

Hi Oubliette

Do you recall the publication or magazine where they acknowledge evolution? Thanks!

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If Women were elders, would it make a difference in the organization?

by John Aquila in

imagine three single sisters who qualified to be appointed as elders in the congregation.

they qualified because they started reaching out in their early teens.

persistently and methodically they worked their way through the ranks by pioneering then becoming a m.s.

John Aquila

Imagine three single sisters who qualified to be appointed as elders in the congregation. They qualified because they started reaching out in their early teens.

Persistently and methodically they worked their way through the ranks by pioneering then becoming a M.S. and finally meeting all the qualifications the W.T. had outlined for Elder-ship as a woman.

Now imagine the difference from a woman officiating in a judicial committee, as opposed to a man officiating in the judicial committee.

A sister confesses to the women elders that she fornicated with you. So you get a telephone call to meet with those three Elderettes. By the way they are all single and hot. The instructions are to meet them at the kingdom hall at 9 P.M.

So you go. They all sit in front of you. The presiding Elderette sits a few inches from your face in a black dress and starts asking you probing questions.

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How did you feel when you started unbuttoned her blouse?

Why did you “Quickly” pull down her panty hose instead of exercising the fruit-age of the spirit which is Patience and self-control?

Did your conscience bother you when you slid you hand back and forth on her 36 inch firm and tan legs?

Do you think the dirty talk was necessary?

Are you repented that you did it 6 times in 2 hours?

Would it make a difference if women were elders?

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Video: How can we be sure the Bible is true?

by cappytan in

one of the latest jw borgcasting videos i referenced in another thread.

uploaded to youtube so that you don't have to go to borgville to watch.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz34cfrarag.

John Aquila

Thanks Cappytan, I also hate to go to their website. It's worse than porn.

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Mentally Diseased - is it partly our fault that we got this label?

by cappytan in

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i was thinking about this the other day.. a common way for apostates to "fade" is to pretend to have depression or anxiety problems.. is it possible, that when apostates become known, the elders report to the society that said person was undergoing mental health problems?

i can see a scenario where the society then took those statistics that were reported and just decided, "well, it looks like the only ones leaving are those with mental diseases.".

oh, and not to mention the subliminal messages conspiracy theorists.

John Aquila

If a person says growing a beard is wrong or,

If a person believes saying "Bless you" after sneezing is wrong or,

If a person believes eating a turkey on a certain day is wrong but OK on any other day, or,

If a person believes that masturbating turns you in a Homosexual or,

If a person believes that if your child is in an accident and needs a blood transfusion but its better to let him die than accept a blood transfusion or,

If a person believes that it is wrong to take blood but it's OK to take blood as long as they break it into fractions or,

If a person believes it's OK to talk to a person who has raped a 5 year old child but it's not OK to talk to a person who doesn't believe in the overlapping generation

Then who really is the one that's Mentally Diseased?

And since the members can't figure this out, what does that say about the members?

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Mentally Diseased - is it partly our fault that we got this label?

by cappytan in

jw
friends

i was thinking about this the other day.. a common way for apostates to "fade" is to pretend to have depression or anxiety problems.. is it possible, that when apostates become known, the elders report to the society that said person was undergoing mental health problems?

i can see a scenario where the society then took those statistics that were reported and just decided, "well, it looks like the only ones leaving are those with mental diseases.".

oh, and not to mention the subliminal messages conspiracy theorists.

John Aquila

Mentally Diseased - is it partly our fault that we got this label?

Is it possible, that when apostates become known, the elders report to the Society that said person was undergoing mental health problems?

In all the years I was an elder, we never reported to the Society that certain individuals were undergoing mental health problems. The Society didn’t give a rat’s ass who was having trouble mentally.

It’s a control and scare tactic that is used by many authoritarian groups to manage control of the members. It’s not a new tactic. In the 1600 Galileo went against the current view of the Church that the earth was not the center of the Universe and that the Sun did not revolved around the earth, but instead he proposed that the earth revolved around the sun. He was labeled a heretic and mentally diseased. And there was consequence to anyone who would talk to him or help him in any way. He was tried and found guilty of heresy and apostasy and it wasn’t until 1992 that the Catholic offered and apology to Galileo. Almost 400 years later.

Hey, maybe 400 years from now the WT will offer an apology to us mentally diseased apostates.

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How many of us stayed in the organization longer than necessary for these other reasons?

by John Aquila in

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disposable hero of hypocrisy

I can't blame you, they're jolly nice.
Exactly the reason I'm still in. For her sake.

That's a very good reason my friend!

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How many of us stayed in the organization longer than necessary for these other reasons?

by John Aquila in

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The "Final Push" before the GT!!! I think they REALLY believe it!

by DATA-DOG in

i don't know if i have shared this with everyone, but there seems to be a new theocratic term, at least in my circuit.. the term is "final push.

" wtf does it mean?

well, an eldub said that the gb are "all in" with warwick and they might spend all their money on the project.

John Aquila

Hey DJS, yes my avatar is Dexter, and I agree, hot girls always look amazing. So here is a little something from Dexter, his girlfriend Hannah.The final push in 'Our world" of apostates.

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The "Final Push" before the GT!!! I think they REALLY believe it!

by DATA-DOG in

i don't know if i have shared this with everyone, but there seems to be a new theocratic term, at least in my circuit.. the term is "final push.

" wtf does it mean?

well, an eldub said that the gb are "all in" with warwick and they might spend all their money on the project.

John Aquila

"The final push."

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The Governing Body-Faded apostates?

by John Aquila in

ive been here less than a year, but ive notice that the majority of us have faded for various reasons.

we also read the stories of those who got disfellowshipped or disassociated themselves.

in the majority of the cases, their parents will not talk to the children for years and the children will not talk to the parents even if they are dying.

John Aquila

I’ve been here less than a year, but I’ve notice that the majority of us have faded for various reasons. We want to talk to our family, want to keep our marriage, we still have parents who are alive and we don’t want to lose contact.

We also read the stories of those who got disfellowshipped or disassociated themselves. In the majority of the cases, their parents will not talk to the children for years and the children will not talk to the parents even if they are dying. And the marriage will never be the same.

But whatever the reason, most of us are not willing to pay the price and declare, “The Watchtower is a cult and evil and the Governing Body is a bunch of Fu*****liars.

The price is too high.

If that is the case with us, why should we not believe that at least some of the Governing Body are faded apostates with more to lose than us? For one thing they are old. They have no marketable skills that will sustain them in a decent job. If they are awake, they may have come to conclude that the Bible is not a book from God so they may feel there is no one to help them and no one to pray to.

Think about what they are seeing just like us.

The generation of 1914 has died.

The anointed is growing instead of declining.

100 years have passed since 1914

The annual growth of the organization is 2% instead of 15% in the 70s

All the child sexual lawsuits

And several more changes that I’m sure they are aware of for the future.

I feel some, if not all, are faded apostates just like us, bidding their time and enjoying what they have at the moment, until either they die or until the jig is up and it’s all gone.

Isn’t that what we are doing?